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abrokencircle 02-24-2008 05:38 PM

A few questions for the experts
 
Hello there,

I recently purchased my first gun, a Ruger MkIII. I purchased a few rounds to go with it (100) but used up all of them in an afternoon of target practice. I just picked up 550 more .22 rounds. Do you think it would be wise to stockpile a few more boxes of 550 rounds? Is there a particular brand of .22 rimfire rounds that you like best? I got Federal, but Winchester and Remmington rounds were only $1.5 more expensive.

I am also thinking about purchasing a rifle. I don't have very much money, so I am thinking it might be better if I just stayed with stockpiling a few more boxes of .22 for my pistol. If I was to purchase a rifle I was looking at T/C Encore.

Any ideas or comments to help this newbie out will be much appreciated.

CQC McDuck 02-24-2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by abrokencircle (Post 981248)
Do you think it would be wise to stockpile a few more boxes of 550 rounds?

Yes!:bull-buddy-icon:

TechGuy 02-24-2008 05:59 PM

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The best 22 round is the one that wont jam in your gun. Lots off 22's are very picky about the type of ammo being fired.. I happen to have 2 of them:

Ruger 10/22
Browning Buckmark 22 pistol.

Both have issues with specific brands of ammo. Jams or feed problems can happen if you pick the wrong ammo. Case in point: Went to the range today to sight in my AR, and took the 10/22 for some cheaper plinking. The winchester Xpert 22 I bought from wally world were TERRIBLE, had at least 10 jams, this on a brand new rifle (first time shooting).

So if you find a ammo type that agrees with your 22, stick to it, or at least dont buy 5 boxes of brand X only to find out your gun doesnt like them.

TechGuy 02-24-2008 06:01 PM

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I do not pretend to be an expert on anything btw, well except sitting on the computer surfing GIM.

SilverCity 02-24-2008 06:01 PM

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I would look at the CZ 452 ZKM series rifles, or even the ubiquitous Ruger 10-22.

All my 22s like CCI Mini-Mag solid or HP...Rugers especially.

And YES stockpile more ammo.

I have heard of some problems with the MkIII magazine disconnect interfering with trigger pull--fixable, I'm sure.

For more info on rimfires, check out this website:http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/

Tn...Andy 02-24-2008 06:46 PM

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My old 10/22 must be a lot looser.....it will shoot anything I put in it.


ABC:

I would avoid the T/C Encore simply because of the single shot feature, even though you can interchange all those barrels.

I would buy a 10/22 in stainless to go with the Ruger you have.

Then I'd get a pump shotgun, 12ga, like a Mossberg 590 or a Remington 870 for close quarter defense.

Then I'd get a decent larger caliber rifle.....you'll get ALL kinds of recomendations here, but if you're new to firearms, I'd personally go with a good bolt action rifle like a Remington 700 in something like 30.06, or whatever is a popular hunting caliber where you live versus a "spray and pray" type assault rifle. Once you learn to handle a larger caliber with some competence, then consider a high magazine capacity assault type rifle.

Then, ammo,ammo,ammo.....and consider getting into basic reloading.

TechGuy 02-24-2008 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 981318)
My old 10/22 must be a lot looser.....it will shoot anything I put in it.

I would buy a 10/22 in stainless to go with the Ruger you have.

It was a brand new 10/22 stainless with eagle 30rd mags. My last 10/22 did much better after a few thousand rounds.

EE_ 02-24-2008 07:03 PM

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I've been a loyal fan of CCI Mini Mags and Stingers for over 30 years.
Just can't seem to switch now? 2,000 rds of stock should get you started.

Quixote2 02-24-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 981329)
It was a brand new 10/22 stainless with eagle 30rd mags.

How does it do with the factory Ruger magazines?

abrokencircle 02-24-2008 07:54 PM

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Thanks for the responses!

I am looking at the Ruger 10/22 and I must admit that it would go well with my MkIII. It even is the right price (around $300).

Tomorrow I will give the ammo I purchased a test run to see how the MkIII likes it.

abrokencircle 02-24-2008 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 981318)
I would avoid the T/C Encore simply because of the single shot feature, even though you can interchange all those barrels.

Actually, the single shot feature was one of the things that attracted me to the gun in the first place. Talk about making every shot count! When I was holding it, I thought that with a little practice reloading it would get a lot faster.

That being said, I don't think I will get it because A) I don't really want to spend the money and B) It is impractical in self-defense and even hunting.

SilverCity 02-24-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by abrokencircle (Post 981383)
Actually, the single shot feature was one of the things that attracted me to the gun in the first place. Talk about making every shot count! When I was holding it, I thought that with a little practice reloading it would get a lot faster.

That being said, I don't think I will get it because A) I don't really want to spend the money and B) It is impractical in self-defense and even hunting.

If you want an inexpensive single shot 22 or any other caliber, check out the NEF rifles...a lot cheaper at about $229 retail, I believe.

http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php#12

TechGuy 02-24-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BW3 (Post 981339)
How does it do with the factory Ruger magazines?

Oh, THATS what that thing was! Honestly, I didn't even bring it with me, my last eagle mags were VERY good and I didnt want to bother with the 10 shot mags.

I guess I will take it next time and see if it is any better,

EE_ 02-24-2008 08:40 PM

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Ruger 10/22...Can't beat em!
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=2685522

TechGuy 02-24-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 981411)

I paid 220 for the stainless model. Well worth the extra few bucks.

The Ruger 10/22 is the AR15 of rimfire rifles. There is no end to the modifications, options, customizations, etc for these rifles.

Satyr 02-24-2008 08:57 PM

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I'm in the process of purchasing my first rifle. It's a Stag Arms AR-15. I have already purchased 1,000 rds of .223 ammo for about $460 and I know I will burn through that easily in a day of breaking in the new gun. I will probably want to purchase at least another case of a thousand just to keep on hand. I think it would be generally wise to keep as much ammo on hand as you can comfortably afford and store. Prices are only going to continue upward. .22 cal and .22 magnum rounds are probably the most affordable when compared to the alternatives. They also take up considerably less space. One thing to remember is, before you buy any ammo in bulk, find out which brand(s) work best for your firearm. This is especially true for guns sized in .22. They can be very picky about the ammo you use. The only way you will find out is by trial and error. Happy shooting :wink:

Unclad Lad 02-24-2008 09:30 PM

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Every .22 will react to ammo differently. Find the one or two that don't jam your gun, and buy a whole flippin' lot of that!!

My Rugers prefer the plated to the lead nose, though the Mark I does pretty well with the Aguila SSS.

There is no such thing as too much .22.

AMforPM 02-24-2008 09:54 PM

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I think the AR-7 is a good semi automatic 22 rifle for bug out because it is light, and breaks down easily with no tools to go in a backpack if it needs to be out of sight for part of the journey.

It isn't fancy, but it is very practical.

TechGuy 02-24-2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Satyr (Post 981417)
I'm in the process of purchasing my first rifle. It's a Stag Arms AR-15. :

Really? You will be happy with it. What model?

I picked up my Stag 2TL this last week and took it to the range for the first time today. I am TOTALLY pleased. I couldn't be happier, very tight gun. Having a left hand rifle is excellent.

The only thing I will change long term is maybe get some trigger work done to lighten the trigger pull a little.

elroy 02-24-2008 10:07 PM

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I would also go with the 10/22

This is one of the most common and reliable .22 rifles available. Magazines are everywhere and there is no limit to the available options and customizations. Last thing you want is a rifle you can't buy magazines for or are very expensive.

SilverCity 02-24-2008 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 981478)
Really? You will be happy with it. What model?

I picked up my Stag 2TL this last week and took it to the range for the first time today. I am TOTALLY pleased. I couldn't be happier, very tight gun. Having a left hand rifle is excellent.

The only thing I will change long term is maybe get some trigger work done to lighten the trigger pull a little.

Rock River sells a two stage drop-in trigger kit for ~$100. Makes for a nice match quality trigger you can install yourself...if you are so inclined.

Satyr 02-24-2008 10:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 981478)
Really? You will be happy with it. What model?

I picked up my Stag 2TL this last week and took it to the range for the first time today. I am TOTALLY pleased. I couldn't be happier, very tight gun. Having a left hand rifle is excellent.

The only thing I will change long term is maybe get some trigger work done to lighten the trigger pull a little.

I opted for the 2T :D I also ordered a nice bipod for it and am also contemplating on getting one of these. Though, the price seems a little steep. I also plan on purchasing a modest scope for it as well. Just curious, did you purchase directly from Stag and have it transfered through an FFL or did you purchase directly from a dealer? I placed an order Friday directly on the Stag Arms site and provided my billing address, name, and card info, but they didn't request any FFL info. I know they sure as hell aren't going to ship it directly to me, so should I assume they will call me at the number I provided to get the rest of the info from me? They don't provide a number to call them, but I did send a message through their site. Still no reply, but it is the weekend.

I started a thread asking for opinions on different brands of ARs. Quite a few people recommended Stag, so that's what I decided on. I can't wait to take it to an outdoor range. Of course, I still have to get the order completed first. :smokin: One step at a time, I guess.

TechGuy 02-25-2008 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Satyr (Post 981510)
I opted for the 2T :D I also ordered a nice bipod for it and am also contemplating on getting one of these. Though, the price seems a little steep. I also plan on purchasing a modest scope for it as well. Just curious, did you purchase directly from Stag and have it transfered through an FFL or did you purchase directly from a dealer?


I purchased it through Talon Arms, because they are local here in Houston. Rob is a really nice guy, you will pay MSRP though.

So far I have added a Tango Down Vertical Grip (highly recommended)
And also a SPOT scope from Mounting Solutions. It is a decent red dot for $160. It will do until I save enough for an aimpoint.

Next rifle will be the Varmiter. It will have the bipod and and a nice scope.

Satyr 02-25-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 981903)
Next rifle will be the Varmiter. It will have the bipod and and a nice scope.

Yeah, I was looking at that too. It looks mean as hell.

Unclad Lad 02-26-2008 12:48 AM

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I wish there was a "Mag-Pul" for the factory mags, though.


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